Posted by: seanmalstrom | June 27, 2008

Questions that need to be asked to analysts

Wedbush Morgan’s Pachter answered some questions in a Gamepro story. He admitted that ‘casual gaming’ was growing faster than ‘traditional gaming’ but that price cuts would save the HD twins. He said that 90% of all console sales occurred last generation at or below the $199 point.

What I find most striking about Pachter is that a couple months ago he said Microsoft should focus on being profitable instead of being number one.

“I don’t understand why Microsoft has to be first. It is part of their DNA, but they really don’t need to be first if they’re profitable. To finish first and lose a few hundred million dollars a year is a bad idea. To finish third and make a few hundred million dollars a year is a good idea.”

This quote makes perfect sense. It is better to make money to live again to fight the marketshare battle the next console cycle. Yet, now Pachter is calling for price cuts. Constant price cutting shows that a product is in a ‘Red Ocean’, that its values overlap with competitors and must use price to differentiate to attract consumers.

Questions that need to be asked to analysts:

1) For decades, the value of new consoles have been upgraded graphics. Since graphics have now become a commodity, shouldn’t the future of HD Twins be very different, meaning substancially worse, than prior generations when graphics were not a commodity?

2) If 90% of consoles were sold at or below $199 the previous generation, then how is the Wii going bonkers with market at $250 and more than that due to re-sellers? How come constant previous price drops for the HD twins only kept their sales afloat? What if price cuts don’t work for the HD Twins? What happens then?

3) Why not try explaining why Wii is selling so well instead of trying to figure out scenarios how the PS3 ‘might’ ’somehow’ rocket to the top?

The question that must be delivered to these analysts is the issue that graphics have now become a commodity. Ask that and you will get a very different response.


Responses

  1. What I don’t understand is that if Sideshow wants MS and Sony to engage in price drop wars against Wii…

    What stops Nintendo from getting a little red water in their green ocean by dropping price to that magic $199 too? It’s like price drops are things that only MS and Sony can do in response, just like dollar fluctuations only affect Nintendo’s profits and not anybody elses.

    It should be known that I’m a hard Nintendo partisan, and as such I know what it is to see through the eyes of a fanboy and speak its tongue. The blindered vision and “what should MS and Sony do” speech is rife with forum fanboy speak. It’s pretty obvious that these analysts are HD fanboys who have invested in HD temples in their living rooms. They should be done away with and replaced with people who sing Nintendo’s praises and convince these retarded 3rd parties to get on Nintendo’s boat or fucking die (hey, I am a Nintendo partisan :D)

  2. 1. After the massively wrong call of “GTA4 will move systems,” I don’t know why anyone would still ask Pachter for advice about this stuff anymore. Then again, I thought his “Wii2 will have HD and is coming in Dec. 2009″ call was dumb as hell when he first said *that* over a year ago, long before I read anything here regarding disruption.

    2. The price cut thing. I never really understood the talk behind that as being the way the HD Twins will pass the Wii in sales. Hey, I’ll admit it, *I’d* buy a PS3 if it did go down to $199, but why does this logic not apply to the Wii as well when analysts bring the subject up? Is the Wii supposed to just magically stay $249 forever, no matter what? And if it’s selling as it is at $249, what’s to stop its sales from going even higher if it went down to $199?

    The value of a product to a consumer isn’t only in it’s price. I think I learned that in my 12th Grade HS Economics class. Didn’t anyone else who keeps thinking prices cuts for the HD Twins is the answer?

  3. @morrigan

    All the Kotaku or another gaming blog reader who keeps say the DS must drop its price for catch up the PSP in Japan. And, apparently, Pachter. Whoa.

  4. When I see Sideshow Pii Wii talking; I automatically turn my brain off and mock him because he is full of crap.

    I have heard people saying that Nintendo should INCREASE the price of the Wii to stop the storages and I just shook my head because while it probably wouldn’t matter what the price is for the new gamers since the values of Wii and the job it does makes it something to buy at ANY price; it won’t give an incentive for the hardcore to buy should they decide to buy one to save themselves from buyer’s remorse. It wouldn’t increase profits either for Nintendo. Decreasing the price will only make the shortages even WORSE for the new gamer should he/she want a Wii and lower Nintendo’s profits. So no one wins in either so the price point stands as is.

    The funny thing is that PSP’s outsell isn’t all that much and I doubt that it will ever be able to outsell DS in the way DS did when it exploded (100,000 units+ per week in margin of victory); regardless if DS gets a refresh or not. And how about PSP’s software sales? Yeah…Sony should either release a new handheld that creates values for non-customers or get the heck out of the market now. PSP is now Sony’s Symbol of Arrogance (and has been since DS started destroying it on a regular basis) which was created only to please the hardcore’s hate of Nintendo. What is Sony going to do at E3 to save the PSP from becoming a total joke? Or have have realized that it’s far too late and are deciding to only save the PS3?

    I cannot wait for the train wreck when Sony and Microsoft go to the podiums of their respective press conferences and try to explain how they got their asses kicked by Nintendo and explain how they are going to kick back. When you kick down a dog for too long; he’s going to turn into a big son of a bitch and that’s exactly what Nintendo has become.

  5. @Gregory Weagle

    We’re in the moment of the circle when the offering, the best deal is the rule. When something appear breaking what we think is the best deal, we don’t how to act. Some people believes is still the Best Deal Rule, that why they think if the “Deal” is getting better, the more people will act to that.

    The thing I cannot understand is why they think a price drop will work, if they know videogames is an innelastic good. Without know anything about consumer values, if they link the meaning of “price drop” with “innelastic good” they will catch why a price drop will not work.


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